KCMO Downtown Streetcar

[carnellmanning74]

does anyone have a pic of what the streetcar will look like also the union station stop is it true that they will have a stairway to board decending from the skywalk over pershing

[DaveKCMO]

does anyone have a pic of what the streetcar will look like also the union station stop is it true that they will have a stairway to board decending from the skywalk over pershing

no stairway from the link (too expensive, and would require an elevator for ADA). the stop was moved to the west curb anyway due to adjacent property owner feedback. a HAWK signal will be installed for pedestrians to cross main mid-block under the link.

pics released by mayor last fall (colors and pattern are not final):

http://transitkc.com/wp-content/uploads ... tcar-1.jpg

[studentper]

does anyone have a pic of what the streetcar will look like also the union station stop is it true that they will have a stairway to board decending from the skywalk over pershing

no stairway from the link (too expensive, and would require an elevator for ADA). the stop was moved to the west curb anyway due to adjacent property owner feedback. a HAWK signal will be installed for pedestrians to cross main mid-block under the link.

pics released by mayor last fall (colors and pattern are not final):

http://transitkc.com/wp-content/uploads ... tcar-1.jpg

what an odd exercise in photoshoping people. I especially like the orange girl, and it's all I could think of when you said the colors and patterns weren't final.

[DaveKCMO]

not worried. the real thing arrives in june 2015.

[loftguy]

what an odd exercise in photoshoping people. I especially like the orange girl.

What do you mean, odd?

Haven't you ever been to the P & L?

[flyingember]

what an odd exercise in photoshoping people. I especially like the orange girl.

What do you mean, odd?

Haven't you ever been to the P & L?

I think they're more talking about how badly they did it.

look at the shadows. line up Main in your mind as as a line through 6:00 and 12:00 on a clock. the train's shadows match the buildings close enough one can't tell, maybe halfway between 9:00 and 10:00 (making this early afternoon). the people's shadows are closer to halfway between 11:00 and 12:00 (making this around noon).

if they had got more of these fine details correct it would look closer to real. they added a second sun to the sky and we subconsciously notice that kind of thing because it's about perspective in the scene. we expect all the lines to match to the same vanishing point and the sun is one for shadows

effectively the people are there 3 hours earlier in the day than the trains are and that's weird. they took the effort to make the perspective work for the train and then stopped bothering

[DaveKCMO]

[grovester]

what an odd exercise in photoshoping people. I especially like the orange girl.

What do you mean, odd?

Haven't you ever been to the P & L?

I think they're more talking about how badly they did it.

look at the shadows. line up Main in your mind as as a line through 6:00 and 12:00 on a clock. the train's shadows match the buildings close enough one can't tell, maybe halfway between 9:00 and 10:00 (making this early afternoon). the people's shadows are closer to halfway between 11:00 and 12:00 (making this around noon).

if they had got more of these fine details correct it would look closer to real. they added a second sun to the sky and we subconsciously notice that kind of thing because it's about perspective in the scene. we expect all the lines to match to the same vanishing point and the sun is one for shadows

effectively the people are there 3 hours earlier in the day than the trains are and that's weird. they took the effort to make the perspective work for the train and then stopped bothering

A fair amount of P&L denizens actually cast no shadow.

[DaveKCMO]

A fair amount of P&L denizens actually cast no shadow.

LITERALLY LOL

[taxi]

A fair amount of P&L denizens actually cast no shadow.

Though the P&L, itself, casts a long shadow.

[DaveKCMO]

whiting-turner construction has posted information on the maintenance facility they will be constructing:

http://www.whiting-turner.com/news/newl ... 14602.html

[loftguy]

whiting-turner construction has posted information on the maintenance facility they will be constructing:

http://www.whiting-turner.com/news/newl ... 14602.html

I truly think that 'Singleton Yard' is great, but I'm calling this the 'Kite Yard' and hope it catches....

[DaveKCMO]

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/n ... it-as.html

The final selection of Herzog Transit as the operator requires approval by Kansas City. If approved, the operations committee will negotiate a contract, and once a notice to proceed is given, Herzog Transit will begin consulting on remaining construction activities and developing standard operating procedures. Later, it will hire streetcar operators, assist with vehicle delivery and testing, and fulfill required federal and state safety certifications, a release from the city said.
 The contract is expected to last five years.

[DaveKCMO]

whiting-turner construction has posted information on the maintenance facility they will be constructing:

http://www.whiting-turner.com/news/newl ... 14602.html

groundbreaking for the maintenance facility will occur in june. they'll also be storing rail nearby for when the yard installation begins (arrives by truck starting today).

[DaveKCMO]

council proposes stop names: http://cityclerk.kcmo.org/liveweb/Docum ... ltuZgujsmY

At 3rd Street and Grand Boulevard, River Market North; and
At 4th Street and Delaware Street, River Market West; and
At 5th Street and Walnut Street, City Market; and
At 7th Street and Main Street, North Loop; and
At 9th Street and Main Street, Library; and
At 12th Street and Main Street, Metro Center; and
At 14th Street and Main Street, Power and Light; and
At 16th Street and Main Street, Kauffman Center; and
At 19th Street and Main Street, Crossroads; and
At Pershing Road and Main Street, Union Station.

[beautyfromashes]

Why is there a stop at 7th and Main? Anticipated development?

[DaveKCMO]

Why is there a stop at 7th and Main? Anticipated development?

yes. it will not have a shelters until something happens there, but there will still be platforms and real-time arrival signs. thankfully -- or maybe unfortunately? -- most of the surrounding parcels are owned by commerce bank.

[taxi]

Why is there no "DaveKCMO" stop?

[DaveKCMO]

Why is there no "DaveKCMO" stop?

pay no attention the man behind the curtain...

[smh]

Why is there a stop at 7th and Main? Anticipated development?

yes. it will not have a shelters until something happens there, but there will still be platforms and real-time arrival signs. thankfully -- or maybe unfortunately? -- most of the surrounding parcels are owned by commerce bank.

Next time I see a Kemper in the elevator I'll try to ask what it would take to kill the parking lots. Besides a new Kauffman.